There are state programs in place for people without insurance to recieve health care. It is the law in the US that every hospital has to treat any one who presents themselves for treatment. The recently passed health care law will increase the cost of health care, increase insurance premiums, increase taxes, and give control of health care decisions to government workers who will certainly have to deny treatment in some cases. Government run medicare and medicaid have limits now on treatment and in Oregon they had a lottery to pick a few thousand who would be covered since there weren’t funds enough to cover everyone who was eligible.
The Republicans have proposed some common sense ways to improve health care. What has been put into law will harm people and the country.
Well I disagree with most of your statement. 🙂
As far as I’m concerned that was the Republican bill of common sense. You could call me angry from the left, but the bill was better than the status quo.
You said “The recently passed health care law will increase the cost of health care”
How are you defining the “cost of health care”…since you’re focusing on insurance premiums I assume that’s what you mean. There are many other “costs” you could consider for the people who don’t have health insurance. Death, bankruptcies, stress from people having to get second and third jobs to pay for health care emergencies and the broken families that might result from that (children not seeing their parents who are working an extra 20 hours a week to pay bills…that’s like anti “family values”).
So I’ll say this bill increases family values…in case any of the far right media still talks about that…
This should reduce percentage of GDP spent on health care..If you want to look at it on a macro level then you can say that it will reduce health care expenses…Ok I will say it. This health care bill reduces the cost of health care.
It will increase the insurance premiums of people who don’t have insurance (duh! – but it’s not a tax where they see nothing in return. They do get health coverage), reduce the cost of insurance for many and increase the costs for some (whereas I believe the majority will see little rise or reduction in premiums – but I’m not positive on that and don’t feel like looking it up right now).
The denial of treatment will be much less than it is now. And I trust a non-profit (uncle sam) to make sensible-responsible decisions than a for profit corporation who is responsible to rich people who already have health insurance (shareholders).
You can probably dispute most of that but let me give you a personal analogy…
Remember when i was 13 and fell off my bike and messed up my knee? (broken cartilage and torn tendons I think, plus hurt like hell)
We didn’t have insurance at the time (you were in school maybe?), so I said it didn’t hurt that bad and I don’t need to go to the Dr…So I was in big pain and I hardly slept all night (and we didn’t have cable so there was only 1 channel that was on 24 hours a day…They showed Barbarella at about 2 in the morning). Anyways 16 hours later in the morning it wasn’t any better so I asked to go to the Dr. I’m sure if I had told you and mom how bad it hurt you would have taken me to the Dr. right away, but I knew we couldn’t pay for it, so I tried to take one for the team.
As it turned out I had insurance (just covering me) from my paper route, so I think they reembursed everything, but what if I didn’t have insurance and needed surgery? Was I going to work harder to cover a $10,000 medical bill? Would you have? What if they said doing nothing would require an amputation or something???
So you can make a statement that the bill will harm people and the country? I guess you’re standing my your principals and saying if my kid can suffer from a lack of health insurance then so can everyone else…
If Obama had trotted me out as an example of how not having health care harms people and the country then I’m sure Fox news would have run off some statistics about how I would have been covered under some program (like the 11 year old kid whose mom died from lack of insurance), and everyone could just repeat their mantra that socialism is bad, but look a little harder. 🙂
I don’t really care that I didn’t have health insurance when I was 13, I’m just trying to point some things out that you may not have considered.
Joe,
There are state programs in place for people without insurance to recieve health care. It is the law in the US that every hospital has to treat any one who presents themselves for treatment. The recently passed health care law will increase the cost of health care, increase insurance premiums, increase taxes, and give control of health care decisions to government workers who will certainly have to deny treatment in some cases. Government run medicare and medicaid have limits now on treatment and in Oregon they had a lottery to pick a few thousand who would be covered since there weren’t funds enough to cover everyone who was eligible.
The Republicans have proposed some common sense ways to improve health care. What has been put into law will harm people and the country.
Well I disagree with most of your statement. 🙂
As far as I’m concerned that was the Republican bill of common sense. You could call me angry from the left, but the bill was better than the status quo.
You said “The recently passed health care law will increase the cost of health care”
How are you defining the “cost of health care”…since you’re focusing on insurance premiums I assume that’s what you mean. There are many other “costs” you could consider for the people who don’t have health insurance. Death, bankruptcies, stress from people having to get second and third jobs to pay for health care emergencies and the broken families that might result from that (children not seeing their parents who are working an extra 20 hours a week to pay bills…that’s like anti “family values”).
So I’ll say this bill increases family values…in case any of the far right media still talks about that…
This should reduce percentage of GDP spent on health care..If you want to look at it on a macro level then you can say that it will reduce health care expenses…Ok I will say it. This health care bill reduces the cost of health care.
It will increase the insurance premiums of people who don’t have insurance (duh! – but it’s not a tax where they see nothing in return. They do get health coverage), reduce the cost of insurance for many and increase the costs for some (whereas I believe the majority will see little rise or reduction in premiums – but I’m not positive on that and don’t feel like looking it up right now).
The denial of treatment will be much less than it is now. And I trust a non-profit (uncle sam) to make sensible-responsible decisions than a for profit corporation who is responsible to rich people who already have health insurance (shareholders).
You can probably dispute most of that but let me give you a personal analogy…
Remember when i was 13 and fell off my bike and messed up my knee? (broken cartilage and torn tendons I think, plus hurt like hell)
We didn’t have insurance at the time (you were in school maybe?), so I said it didn’t hurt that bad and I don’t need to go to the Dr…So I was in big pain and I hardly slept all night (and we didn’t have cable so there was only 1 channel that was on 24 hours a day…They showed Barbarella at about 2 in the morning). Anyways 16 hours later in the morning it wasn’t any better so I asked to go to the Dr. I’m sure if I had told you and mom how bad it hurt you would have taken me to the Dr. right away, but I knew we couldn’t pay for it, so I tried to take one for the team.
As it turned out I had insurance (just covering me) from my paper route, so I think they reembursed everything, but what if I didn’t have insurance and needed surgery? Was I going to work harder to cover a $10,000 medical bill? Would you have? What if they said doing nothing would require an amputation or something???
So you can make a statement that the bill will harm people and the country? I guess you’re standing my your principals and saying if my kid can suffer from a lack of health insurance then so can everyone else…
If Obama had trotted me out as an example of how not having health care harms people and the country then I’m sure Fox news would have run off some statistics about how I would have been covered under some program (like the 11 year old kid whose mom died from lack of insurance), and everyone could just repeat their mantra that socialism is bad, but look a little harder. 🙂
I don’t really care that I didn’t have health insurance when I was 13, I’m just trying to point some things out that you may not have considered.